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US Magnesium 401 Certification Public Hearing - Shared screen with speaker view
Helene Cuomo
01:18:02
how do we sign in to speak?
Richard Harvey
01:18:12
should remote participants sign in somehow?
julie emory
01:19:01
Yes I hear you
Kenna PatiΓ±o
01:19:12
We can only hear if they are speaking directly into the mic
Brenda Johnson
01:20:18
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
Brenda Johnson
01:20:26
We are asking folks in the room to speak into a mic
Sarah J. Balland
01:20:35
Sarah J. Balland
Steve Erickson
01:21:46
I would like to speak briefly - Steve Erickson
Colin Kelly
01:22:14
I would also like to make a public comment.-Colin Kelly
Helene Cuomo
01:22:17
Helene Cuomo is willing to give a statement from zoom platform.
Heather Dove
01:22:35
I would like to speak briefly, also
Portia Densley
01:23:20
Portia Densley, and I would like to comment via the chat box (I do not have a camara or microphone attached to my computer).
Shelly Filgo
01:24:29
I would like to make a statement on chat please
Oscar Zavala
01:24:53
I would like to speak briefly.
Helene Cuomo
01:29:27
question from Helene
Michael & Paige
01:33:09
Michael Shiplet would like to make a comment.
Mary Anne Karren
01:34:22
I would like to speak
Mary Paul
01:34:25
Mary Paul would like to make a comment.
iPhonejules
01:36:01
Exactly
Michael & Paige
01:38:39
We're with you.
Dash Longe
01:38:39
There are dead birds everywhere out there already. It is SO SO BAD.
Lydia
01:38:53
Everyone who has spoken has said beautiful words <3
Colin Kelly
01:38:53
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Anne_3434
01:39:06
It's good to be passionate - tears are ok!
Al Rockatansky
01:39:10
Right now everyone, even politicians (who famously have ignored the lake for decades) are talking about bringing a pipeline in from the ocean to replenish the lake. so why are we talking about a pipeline to take more water FROM the lake?
iPhonejules
01:39:16
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Quinn Kramer
01:40:41
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Lydia
01:40:41
Love the way he speaks, he is speaking volumes
Colin Kelly
01:40:57
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evana
01:41:00
Agree completely!
Eddie Q
01:41:00
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Kaleb Nordwald
01:41:10
who just spoke? Great
Shelly Filgo
01:41:35
Am I forgetting that in the last Mitt Romney newsletter saving the Great Salt Lake was on the top of his list. Are we forgetting that this issue has been on the pages of the New York Times, forefront of Utah legislators on how to save this lake. It is very confusing to me that this issue is even on the table.
Sarah Woodbury
01:41:40
Sarah Woodbury would like to make a brief comment.
Justin
01:42:01
I appreciate everyone who has taken their time to participate tonight. Fo
Anne_3434
01:42:35
Yes we can see
Michael & Paige
01:42:40
Thank you
Mary Paul
01:42:40
Please step back to the microphone
Colin Kelly
01:42:55
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Anne_3434
01:43:03
That picture says 1000 words
Jake Wilks
01:43:16
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Al Rockatansky
01:43:19
absolutely.
Colin Kelly
01:43:20
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evana
01:43:24
Hear Hear!
Quinn Kramer
01:43:27
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Oscar Zavala
01:43:30
I can see clearly the ocean and the desert images.
Eddie Q
01:43:34
We’ll said!
Jake Wilks
01:43:46
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Al Rockatansky
01:44:17
YES
Eddie Q
01:44:28
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Dash Longe
01:44:40
Every resident. Every developer. Every business owner and every business person that has invested a dollar in this state should be highly concerned about another OZ of water not staying in the lake.
iPhonejules
01:45:22
Exactly. Why is this on the table
Teresa Crockett
01:46:02
I oppose additional withdrawal of water from the Great Salt Lake and its tributaries until the lake can achieve and maintain a healthy level. Culture, tourism, recreation, community health, and wildlife are all dependent on the lake being at a healthy, sustainable lake level. Deny the Section 401 permit for this project.
Jake Wilks
01:46:34
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Eddie Q
01:46:55
The fact we’re even having to talk about this is gross. I can’t help but wonder if big companies are hoping the water will dry up so they can develop the land amongst other projects (like the inland port).
Dash Longe
01:47:25
GO CAMRON!!! WE LOVE YOU
iPhonejules
01:47:56
Yes. Camron!
Eddie Q
01:48:23
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Shelly Filgo
01:48:29
Excellent !!!
Al Rockatansky
01:48:50
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iPhonejules
01:49:57
Hahaha yess!
evana
01:49:57
Great Points about snow pack and maintaining the water levels in Utah!
iPhonejules
01:50:11
Gross negligence
Jake Wilks
01:50:44
Totally right, hats off to this speaker!
Colin Kelly
01:51:28
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Quinn Kramer
01:51:32
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Dash Longe
01:51:35
THANK YOU CAM!!!!!
Brenda Johnson
01:51:47
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
steve brush
01:52:14
impressive Cam! thanks for sticking up for us all!
evana
01:52:17
Evan Anderson would like to make a public comment
CARINA WELLS
01:52:24
Carina Wells (to make a public comment)
Colin Kelly
01:53:48
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Michael & Paige
01:53:49
Well said.
Oscar Zavala
01:54:00
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Anne_3434
01:54:47
Might we remind our Utah Devision of Water Quality that they also breathe this air and drink this water? It is **our** families, **our** health that is tied to the water supply. We need water!
Oscar Zavala
01:54:56
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Colin Kelly
01:55:08
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Wasatch Community Gardens
01:55:28
Thank you Denise, and SOGSL.
Oscar Zavala
01:56:22
It is great to have known about how we must always have good outdoor air quality and water.
Colin Kelly
01:56:31
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Oscar Zavala
01:58:33
Good air quality and water is always needed for living especially at the Great Salt Lake.πŸ‘πŸ˜€
AC
01:59:46
The fact that this is on the table blows my mind. This is exactly wrong. Worse possible timing ever.
Al Rockatansky
02:00:23
al rockatansky (for comment)
Jake Wilks
02:00:26
Truth! So much work has been done to improve our water consumption and let more get to the lake! This is to benefit everyone, not support US Magnesium!
Brenda Johnson
02:00:55
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
Colin Kelly
02:01:14
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Oscar Zavala
02:01:22
The Great Salt Lake must be clean and safe from here in Utah.
Justin
02:01:59
I appreciate everyone who has taken their time to participate tonight. I'm a dad and relatively new to this cause, though I've been involved in other environmental concerns. I believe the opinions from the group are largely an obvious consensus. My attempt to simplify, how is it possible that a permit request can be granted in the generally accepted idea that it will further drain water from the lake. (I believe as noted by many others, this is not complicated solution, just add water. The how is tough, I'll admit.) So why are we here? How do we stop this permit? Is it just the fat and dirty dollar? How much is needed? This is not rhetorical. There are some of us who have access to resources that could combat this. Being clear here, CASH. International investors, billionaire investors, and dads like me who are fortunate and more humble, but capable. US Magnesium is a business. Partnership could be powerful, weirdly aren't we after the same thing? Shout out to CAM and HEAL!!
Quinn Kramer
02:02:00
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Colin Kelly
02:02:01
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Anne_3434
02:02:13
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Jake Wilks
02:02:26
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Dash Longe
02:03:54
People should go out to the lake or next time they fly over it, look out the window. Carghill and Morton and are also piping water and culverting water into their evaporation ponds too. IT IS SOOOOOO INSANE. Yes we need salt and yes we need magnesium but at the expense of life on the Wasatch Front?
Brenda Johnson
02:04:25
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
Colin Kelly
02:04:43
Thanks Brenda
Dash Longe
02:04:59
DASH LONGE and I would like to make a public comment
Mary Anne Karren
02:05:03
Mary Anne Karren - I'd like to comment.
Sarah Woodbury
02:08:02
Sarah Woodbury
Quinn Kramer
02:08:10
Thank you Nate πŸ‘
Colin Kelly
02:08:14
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Oscar Zavala
02:08:56
Thank you for todays meeting
Kaleb Nordwald
02:09:01
Kaleb Nordwald would like to make a public comment
Brenda Johnson
02:09:05
When your name is called for your comment, please state your name.
Sarah J. Balland (she/they)
02:09:45
Thank you, Brenda.
iPhonejules
02:12:07
He’s nailing it
iPhonejules
02:12:53
Profits over people, but news flash there’s no profit without people
Colin Kelly
02:13:00
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Quinn Kramer
02:13:00
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Jake Wilks
02:13:17
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Brenda Johnson
02:13:49
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
Brenda Johnson
02:14:01
When your name is called for your comment, please state your name.
Colin Kelly
02:15:48
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Colin Kelly
02:15:49
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iPhonejules
02:15:56
😭
iPhonejules
02:15:58
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AC
02:16:23
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Brenda Johnson
02:17:22
If you would like to make a public comment please leave your name in the chat box.
Brenda Johnson
02:17:31
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Quinn Kramer
02:17:54
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Colin Kelly
02:18:36
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iPhonejules
02:18:52
God bless you
Dash Longe
02:18:53
AMAZING Mike Morgan!!!!
iPhonejules
02:19:01
Thank you Mike
Oscar Zavala
02:19:09
πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ Applause to all the hosts for meeting up together for having todays discussion about protecting the health of our Utah economy, community, and the Great Salt Lake to be living safe.
Lydia
02:20:00
Lydia - I would like to make a statement without a mic
Michael & Paige
02:21:06
Yes
Mikkel
02:21:25
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Quinn Kramer
02:21:34
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Colin Kelly
02:21:39
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Michael & Paige
02:21:42
Well said Sarah.
Wendy
02:21:50
Wendy Wilcox and Vicki Heal would like to ask you to deny the permit to US Magnesium.
Oscar Zavala
02:22:10
Good discussion SarahπŸ‘
Al Rockatansky
02:27:09
Sorry guys but I do have to go right now, I have class. My statement:US Magnesium just laid off a huge portion of their workers, so who will be benefitting from this? is it the few workers they have left? Or is it the people who get the big money? and who is that?Speaking plainly...Do you, who are considering granting this application, understand what ecosystem collapse means? Have you lived through it? Ecosystem collapse doesn't just mean animals and water. It means everything. That money that everyone is looking forward to, at the heart of this application...that will be gone. And I know right now that feels like an empty threat because you don't know what that means, you haven't ever seen it here. You haven't lived through it. And other places where it's happened are so far away they're out of sight, out of mind. So you dont know what losing the lake entails. What I thought would happen in 40, 50 years is happening right in front of me, it's terrifying. You should be terrified too.
Colin Kelly
02:27:49
Aral Sea in Kazakhstan & Ownen's Lake in CA
Lydia
02:28:05
This is my statement -Hello, my name is Lydia Greer. I am a resident of Saratoga Springs, UT. I have lived in the same place all my life. I have just turned 18, so this will be my first time voting this midterms, the first time involving myself, and my first time excersizing my rights. I encourage you all to do the same this November. As everyone has said before me, the decision should be obvious. We all know the difference between right and wrong, and this is wrong. We have the power to prevent this, it is our first right in our constitution. And I would like to remind everyone that once the decision has been made, the fight will still not be over. We have to constantly put in our best efforts, and not rest until the fight has been won. Thank you <3
Quinn Kramer
02:29:23
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Oscar Zavala
02:32:46
Good evidence Heather
Colin Kelly
02:33:41
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Colin Kelly
02:33:44
Yes we can hear
Jake Wilks
02:33:59
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Ambyr Mishelle
02:34:29
I have to go but here is my statement: My name is Ambyr Mishelle. I was born and raised in Utah and I am a current resident of South Ogden. Im honored to be able to live in such a special place.I am a Sailor and Filmmaker whose passion and profession has been affected by the decreasing amount of water of The Great Salt Lake . Consequently I have been recreationally and emotionally restricted from being able to dock or launch a sailboat into the previously wondrous pride of our state due to its current state.The entertainment industry is tragically unable to utilize the once beautiful location that brought about a unique identity to our state.The endangered body of water is a shadow of its former self and aside from all the monumental ecological issues present and pending, it is aesthetically appalling and embarrassing that our leaders have allowed a non-natural topographical disaster to occur . Neglecting to head off the regression of the lakes health, when there was far less damage to correct
Colin Kelly
02:34:41
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Ambyr Mishelle
02:35:03
is a disappointing lack of action as will be the decision to approve this permit.I’m urging the Division of water Quality to deny the permit before it’s too late to regret. Thank you for your time.
AC
02:37:47
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Abbie Simons
02:37:55
Abbie Simons would like to make a comment
AC
02:40:19
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Elise
02:43:16
Elise would like to make a comment
AC
02:43:41
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Michael & Paige
02:43:43
Thank you.
Jake Wilks
02:43:59
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Micah A
02:44:15
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iPhonejules
02:45:39
Julianna Clay. I have to go, but I’d like to submit this comment: Look out the window, look at our air quality. What do you think that’s going to be like if the lake no longer exists and toxic metals are being blown around? People will not stay here. Exposure to heavy metals results in long term health conditions, increases infant and maternal mortality rates, and shortens life spans. The people are tired of leadership’s failures to protect public health and the health of our environment. Enough with the short sighted profits over people mentality. If there are no people, which there won’t be if the lake dries up, there will be no profit. US Magnesium should not be allowed to extract more water. I can’t believe it’s even up for discussion the people and the lake say no. The fact that these departments and the state have let water be diverted and the lake is this way is gross negligence by the state and the departments that are supposed to protect our water and public health by proxy. Egregious.
iPhonejules
02:45:48
Julianna Clay
Michael & Paige
02:45:53
Kayak the sky. True.
iPhone (7)
02:46:36
Float the Sky!!
Kelly Hannah
02:47:53
Further draining this lake from the bottom up is not a viable solution. It is not a viable solution for the long term operation of US Magnesium, it is not a viable solution for the water users upstream, it is not a viable solution for the health, welfare and safety of of Utah's people, most notably the millions of people living along the Wasatch Range. Please deny this permit request, DWQ.
evana
02:47:53
Well said Sarah!
Mikkel
02:47:57
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AC
02:48:00
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Oscar Zavala
02:48:21
I have enough water from my home
Oscar Zavala
02:49:38
From todays discussion of the Great Salt Lake I have also created a drawing last year 2021 of how we must save the Great Salt Lake from being in danger.
Micah A
02:50:28
The Great Salt Lake is at its lowest level ever recorded already. Letting big companies like US Magnesium waste massive amounts of water would just end up hurting all of us and it's not sustainable for the company either. We need to preserve the ecosystem from inherently selfish corporations. It wouldn't take much more for ecological disaster so what we do now is especially important.
AC
02:51:10
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iPhone (7)
02:55:06
Please - Everyone - take the 10 minutes needed to Write your comments - to urge Rejection of the US Mag Corp permit application by the DWQ to :wqcomments@utah.gov before 5:00 pm Oct. 27th .Remind the DWQ that it is their fiduciary duty to protect the water quality of the lake - and that they are Obligated by law and their very division mission statement to protect the states water ways and water quality .Urge your friends to submit their comments . PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS - Only We The People can hold the DWQ accountable to do their jobs and perform their fiduciary duty as a state agency to the citizens of Utah .Please !! This is critically important . !Thank you - Camron
Hailey
03:00:01
There won't be time to speak, but I would like to leave my comment on the issue at hand. At the beginning of the meeting we were asked to keep our comments focused immediately on the issue at hand, but as I've listened to the speakers I've heard the same fears I have slip through the cracks. The environment that we depend on for our existence is collapsing. In this case it is one corporation who's only goal is to extract resources and convert it to wealth. Every single member of the community who has spoken tonight has expressed exact opposition to US Magnesium's interest. And as long as our lives, our environment, and the health of our children are immediately at stake, we will continue to express our exact opposition to the short-sighted interests of entities such as US Magnesium. Deny this application, and focus all efforts on fighting off any similar permits in the future. We must prioritize our environment over the wellbeing of the future generations.
Hailey
03:00:34
*and the (not over the)
Richard Harvey
03:05:51
Thank you for organizing this hearing and for your willingness to stay overtime for the various comments. It has been run very effectively, and we appreciate your concern for public input.-Silvia Smith
AC
03:05:53
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Colin Kelly
03:05:54
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Oscar Zavala
03:07:31
Good bye
Colin Kelly
03:08:37
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Mikkel
03:08:46
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Markell McCubbin (she/her)
03:11:43
Public comment from Markell McCubbin: I have spent 20 years in education in the Salt Lake valley. I work with 5th through 8th graders at Salt Lake Arts Academy, who are learning about their world. They are practicing being active participants in their local community. These kids make signs and protest at the Capitol. They want to live healthy lives in their community. The DESERVE to be cared for by the adults in this city, representatives of our state and local governments. I am a mother, and am terrified for my child’s future. We know the science. We know the data. What we need to do is act mindfully and responsibly and prioritize people over profits. Please think about the children in each of YOUR lives, and imagine the horror they will face if we continue to deplete the critical Great Salt Lake, due to YOUR inaction. This is our ethical obligation to the land that houses us and the people we love. Please deny this permit.
Steven B
03:12:05
excellent comments all around, I am proud of our community tonight
Jake Wilks
03:12:11
thanks everybody for making it out here!
Micah A
03:12:20
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Mikkel
03:12:37
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julie emory
03:12:41
Thank you for having the hearing. Deny this permit
Elise
03:12:42
Sorry, I believe my comment was missed